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PostSubject: Navy   April 21st 2009, 16:13

My sweetie is retired Navy as well. We spent 25 years, and logged many, many miles in defense of this country. He's spent many nights sleeping on the deck of a destroyer, before air conditioning, in the middle of the Red Sea, standing watches, keeping an eye on Russian ships! I believe most members of the military consider their final authority to be The Constitution of the United States; and, if push came to shove, I believe they would defend their fellow countrymen.

Are you listening, Janet?
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PostSubject: Re: After the Tea Parties, what is next? State Sovereignty...here is how.   April 24th 2009, 15:49

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My sweetie is retired Navy as well. We spent 25 years, and logged many, many miles in defense of this country.

My wife and I hope to meet both of you are the Oconee Park March (Athens Teaparty). We you be there?
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PostSubject: Watkinsville   April 25th 2009, 11:09

What's the date, again, Larry?
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PostSubject: Re: After the Tea Parties, what is next? State Sovereignty...here is how.   April 25th 2009, 14:01

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What's the date, again, Larry?

Athens Tea Party

Donna, maybe I am suffering a senior moment but I swear it was you that posted the announcement for the Tea Party below. Whatever the case, we plan to be there and hope you will be also.

It is May 9th. A Saturday.
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PostSubject: Join the Club!   April 26th 2009, 16:16

Nope, it wasn't me... I'll check through the other posts, though; and see if I can find it!
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PostSubject: Re: After the Tea Parties, what is next? State Sovereignty...here is how.   April 26th 2009, 19:24

My wife and I will be there, and hopefully we can get some friends to come join us!

I tried to contact whomever is doing this thing, but no reply. Apparently, they have everything covered.

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PostSubject: House bypasses governor’s veto to claim Oklahoma’s sovereignty   May 6th 2009, 11:27

Since this thread was originally on the principle of sovereignty, I would post this here.
Oklahoma’s sovereignty

Mark my words. Today we are talkng about sovereignty. In a couple of years, we will be talking about secession, if this administration keeps going the way they are going.
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PostSubject: I love spring rider   May 6th 2009, 19:54

You are so right. How do we find them and how do we get them booked?
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PostSubject: Re: After the Tea Parties, what is next? State Sovereignty...here is how.   May 6th 2009, 21:24

Get who booked? I'm lost.


On a side note - did you see the last sentence about the auto-bailout. Well, don't look now, but they wanna give them billions more!

It's about time someone put a stop to this nonsense of "bailing out" businesses - which is really just a way to nationalize them, force their hand and take control. Story out today said Chrysler execs were threatened if they didn't had over their assets. Do YOU put it past Obama and the socialists? I don't. .

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PostSubject: Re: After the Tea Parties, what is next? State Sovereignty...here is how.   May 6th 2009, 22:30

By Booked, he means how do we these "secession people" I was referencing to come forward and speak. It was a loose hypothetical.


It is too bad that you are smarter than a Harvard educated CEO.

But you are right. Bail out = nationalization
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PostSubject: Re: After the Tea Parties, what is next? State Sovereignty...here is how.   May 6th 2009, 22:52

I'm not smarter. just more paranoid. Smile LOL

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PostSubject: Something it happening   May 7th 2009, 17:53

I believe their is a slow boil going on through-out the republic. More and more states are declaring sovereignty and establishing walls between themselves and DC. Glenn Beck talked about Montanna's claim to dissociate itself from any and all Federal gun regulations.

I truly think there is something in the air and it is slowing moving across the country.

America is starting to wake up.



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PostSubject: Re: After the Tea Parties, what is next? State Sovereignty...here is how.   May 7th 2009, 17:56

What we need is not a resolution though. Right?

What we need is a bill....

They make resolutions honoring trees and stuff don't they? Butterflies, I think someone said.

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PostSubject: Re: After the Tea Parties, what is next? State Sovereignty...here is how.   May 7th 2009, 18:05

All roads start with a single step...
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PostSubject: Re: After the Tea Parties, what is next? State Sovereignty...here is how.   May 7th 2009, 19:06

The Titanic (America) is sinking because there is a gigantic hole in the hull. The precious cargo of the ship contains: the ideals of our founding fathers, lives that were lost in wars that were fought to keep us free, privacy, equality, individuality, and the hopes and dreams for the future our children. As all of these wonderful attributes of our "free" country are rushing out through this gaping hole, these American attributes are being displaced by:socialism, multiculturialism, diversity, revisionism, corruption, deceit, entitlement, absurd tax rates, class envy, and a soon-to-be worthless currency.

It is going to take major, consistant action on our part to rid our ship of this socialistic, cancerous, manifesto of the current government.

Can we really endure 3 1/2 more years? If we have to go 3 1/2 more years, how long will it take to repair the damage? Already, we know that the financial impact caused by this lunacy is going to cost every man, woman and child approximately $11,000, in addition to our existing tax burden. However, the GAO has not issued a report on what it will cost to reclaim our freedom. Rolling Eyes

We have been re-arranging the deck chairs on the ship, and now it is time to repair the gaping hole before we all drown.
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PostSubject: Sovereignty   May 10th 2009, 18:15

I believe strongly that true control of states rights will only be accomplished through a systematic "grass roots"movement that goes from the local level on to county and then state.We need to learn the lessons that were taught to us by the viet cong.We need cells from the local level on up that are focused on a common goal and that are networked from each town into the county, on into the state,finally nationally.We identify leaders and promote them on each level.Once the state level is secure then we use constitutional law to put the feds in place.Our efforts should compliment the actions of other states so that we can keep the progressives off balance to the point of being ineffective.Pick a sister state and plan events and action that will stretch the national ,or"hardcore",liberal leader thin.When the head of the snake can"t reach you,there"s not much of a bite.Judge Napolitano has a good idea with constitutional convention.
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PostSubject: Re: After the Tea Parties, what is next? State Sovereignty...here is how.   May 10th 2009, 18:30

Judge Napolitano has a good idea with constitutional convention






If we could guarantee that conservatives would have control over the outcome, I'd agree. However, it is becoming more widely known that there is no such guarantee. If the statist gets his evil hands on the Constitution, we could lose what Liberty we have left in short order. A CC has no safeguard against leftists taking over the convention and literally destroying the Constitution once and for all.


Or so, I've been told by dozens of people smarter than I'll ever be.

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Correct me if i'm wrong! We're all learning as we go.

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PostSubject: constitutional convention.hereafter known as "CC"   May 10th 2009, 18:56

The "CC" phase would come once enough states have their congressional house in order.With the boldness of their recent actions I'm sure that the conversation has come up in their own camp.They don't feel that their position is secure enough to risk it either.
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PostSubject: Re: After the Tea Parties, what is next? State Sovereignty...here is how.   May 10th 2009, 20:02

I've heard some say that even the serious threat of a constitutional convention would be enough to cause Congress to put on the brakes and start moving in another direction. I think they'd be scared to death of what would happen if they lost control, Dems and Republicans included. Is there any guidance on how a convention would be configured? How would delegates be appointed?
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PostSubject: state sovereignty   May 24th 2009, 19:11

The state legislature must request constitutional convention. Any changes made must be ratified by a majority of the states.An individual or interest group does not have the ability to request a convention.That is why you want to be sure where your state legislature stands on issues.
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PostSubject: Re: After the Tea Parties, what is next? State Sovereignty...here is how.   May 30th 2009, 09:19

michael32 wrote:
The state legislature must request constitutional convention. Any changes made must be ratified by a majority of the states.An individual or interest group does not have the ability to request a convention.That is why you want to be sure where your state legislature stands on issues.

The states wouldn't have to agree with what happened at the CC, good or bad.
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PostSubject: Re: After the Tea Parties, what is next? State Sovereignty...here is how.   May 30th 2009, 13:44

I received the following response from our GA state representative when I e-mailed him regarding potential action in the GA over states' rights. I don't know if it's encouraging or not...maybe he's just a man of few words! I sent the same message to Jim Butterworth (senate) and haven't heard a peep from him.

"I appreciate your email and concern over States Rights. There is indeed much talk regarding this issue and you can expect movement on it during our next session. Please feel free to contact me anytime with anything and thanks again for your email."
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PostSubject: After the tea party state sovereignty   June 1st 2009, 19:42

Responding to Decepticon Don.The action of constitutional convention is not without risk.However any changes proposed must be ratified by a three quarter vote of the states."I'm pretty sure this is correct,check me on it before quoting me on it please."This is why I stated earlier the importance of networking this plan of action with other states to be sure that the situation could be controled before action was taken.the reason any senator would shy away from this plan is that it will mean a loss of power in the federal gov. placing the balance of power back in the states.The selection of senators could be brought back to the state legislature instead of voting them in.this would allow greater control of senators by the people in their home states as they could be recalled if they start getting too far out of line with the wishes of their constituants.This would also
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PostSubject: Re: After the Tea Parties, what is next? State Sovereignty...here is how.   June 1st 2009, 19:58

Once again, I believe the founders had it right--the 18th Amendment needs to be repealed so senators will no longer be beholden to Washington. Instead they will answer to the state and be expected to act for the good of the state. They are so far removed, now, from their constituencies, they quickly lose any incentive to act on our behalf.
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PostSubject: Re: After the Tea Parties, what is next? State Sovereignty...here is how.   June 2nd 2009, 11:10

DonnaC wrote:
Once again, I believe the founders had it right--the 18th Amendment needs to be repealed so senators will no longer be beholden to Washington. Instead they will answer to the state and be expected to act for the good of the state. They are so far removed, now, from their constituencies, they quickly lose any incentive to act on our behalf.


17th amendment.
But you are right. There is no state control over senators. Therefore, no state control at the federal level.
6 years to lie, cheat, and steal because of the gullibility of voters.
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